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prime geraldo will do specials and janine piro will be doing stuff. stay with fox nuse channel throughout the the weekend. i am sorry i have to report it horrible story spout off about the factor. oreilly news.com. word of the day. no billings when running the factor. i am bill o'reilly. remember the spin here. we are definitely looking out for you. this is a fox nuse alert. 12 hours removed from an unthinkable tragedy in newtown, connecticut where we know that 28 people are dead them children and 7 of them adults and one of them the shooter. a 911 call came from the
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school reports of a shooter inside. local and state police immediately responded and what they found inside described by police as horrific. we obtained the audio tapes while the tragedy unfold. caller indicated someone shoot negligent building. it is the front class. we have multiple weapons and one rifle and a shot gun. we need ambulances here apap. the shooter is 20 year old
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adam lanza, his mother is a teacher at sandy hook. reportedly killed in her home by lansa before the assault on the school. police are questioning his brother ryan who was mistakenly thought to be the shooter. police are in the horrible task of identifying the dead. it will be a lengthy process and likely take until tomorrow morning. it is it a fluid situation with crucial pieces of information that continued to emerge and rick leaventhal reported for fox all day. rick, with the latest. nshawn elementary schools are not supposed to be crime scenes buthat is what is happening in sandy hook. the medical examiner and teems of investigators are collecting evidence and going through the gruesome task of identifying the bodies of 27 victims including the shooter who shot himself after killing
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6 adults and twept kids inside of that elementary school. we are told by investigators and federal law enforcement sources that the shooter adam lanza killed his mother in the home they shared in newtown, connecticut this morning and then took three weapons that she owned. a glock and handgun and rifle and went to the school driving her car. the school where she apparently worked as a substitute teacher. he gained entrance through the security and then opened fire. we know that the police responded. you heard the and they called in reenforcements and those officers didn't waste time. they got all of the kids and survivors out of the school and moved them to a nearby fire house that was set as a staging area and that is where the frantic parents were directed to take their children and get them home
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safely, sean. one . reachers went on record. the school had added new security that you had to be buzzed in the school and it was at that point the shooter went to the administration and what we learned it was during morning announcements somebody kept up the announcements and that served as a warning and a lot of other store storse of heroism including the custodian and teachers whampt have you heard on the ground today. we have heard that children and adults and schools heard screens over the loud speaker system as it was upfolding because they came over the speakers and the children and teachers heard gun shots in the school and many of them took cover and locked themselves in classrooms and others ran for the exits and one gun boy six years old watching his teacher
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shot and running for safety out of the classroom. took his freppeds with him. we don't know again how the shooter got in whether they buzzed him because they recognized him or he circumvepted security, sean. rick, we'll be checking in throughout the night joining me is connecticut state representative john fry is with us and his two nieces and nefew were at the school. thank you for joining us tonight. a community of 27,000 people fairly well to do miles northeast of the new york city. what can you tell us about the community and what you know from your nieces and nefews. sean, thanks, it is a great town here. i can't stop thinking about last night, last night sandy
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hook elementary had a holiday concert that i attended. my niece was part of the choir and i think back to the hundred kids on the stage and their familis and sibblings running throughout the auditorium and 12 hours later this tragedy occurred. yeah. obviously, have you spoken to any other people in town and stories that we have been hearing including the custodian and a teacher on tape that i will show in a second and the lengths that people went to protect the children was amazing. it was incredible. i know one of my nieces was in the library. and they werushered boo a closest to protect them. my sister did something which i don't think i could have done. she was on the way to the school and there were five or four boys all in first grade
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running up quite a distance from the fire house and she stopped and picked them up and not knowing what was going on and one of the boys said there was someone with a gun trying to kill them and in the school and she called the school and the police department and she stayed with them. they had emptied out and stayed with them not knowing the fate of her own three kids in the school. just senseless evil and our thoughts and prayers. i hope you know from the country are with your community tonight, sir. state representative fry, thank you for joining me. we go back live to newtown, connecticut where bill hammer is standing by to give us deof the latest tragedy. bill. sean, the story is not even 12 hours. we were live 10:15 eastern
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time when the news just started to come across the wire. and frankly at the time, we were told one person was shot in the foot and treated in the local hospital. there little nuse after that and that went on for a considerable amount of time. it was 45 minutes to an hour when we learned the details we go back and piece together in the mind. there were no other injuries. there were just dead bodies indeed of the elementary school here in connecticut. and the police were absorbing the information and going room to room and trying to make sure the killer and gunman was accounted for and though one else was inside . many of the children were told to close their eyes and run to get out of the building and make sure they didn't look around the surroundings where they were. i spoke to a woman whoyce
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daughter is okay. they were led out of the back door of the school to make sure they did not pass by any of the dead children who were lying there in the classrooms where they had gone to school here. these stories are just so chilling, sean. and when you think. we are learning about this news for the first time. it just bloys your mind the level of evil that rolled through the town today. i don't think i could say it any better than that, bill. the idea that the kids were told close your eyes as they walked them out. three stories struck me today that came to pass. the six year just mentioned as the shooter was shooting, he grabbed her friends and ran out of the classroom and custod dan running up and down the halls and warning people. and a teacher, numerous stories of teachers hiding kids in closests and locking
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doors and putting them in the lavatories and one was interviewed by abc earlier tonight. i took one of the students on top of the toilest. i knew to get in there and you will be all right. and i pulled the book shelf and we were barricaded in that. dutell them to be quiet. did you worry. i told them to be quiet. and be absolutely quiet. i was so afraid if he heard us and start shooting the door . we have to be absolutely quiet and i said. there are bad guys and we need to wait for the good guys. i just wanted us to be okay. and i was so, so saddened that there are people in this situation that are not okay. and my heart goes out to anyone who knew them.
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and was part of their lives. i can't imagine. it is hard to come to grips with. you called this evil and the parents, i am upon sure many bought christmas gifts for their little children and now planning funerals and christmas eve and christmas day are going to come and they are not going to have their kids home. sean, a few of the things we are learning just now about the victims it is the next wave in the story. you knowledge -- think it is sad now. hang on. we'll plete the people killed inside of the building. we are told the principal had been in the school district for years. age fren. she had two daughters and three step daughters and leaving all of them behind and george, a teacher in the district as well tomorrow morning at 8:00 eastern time we expect the state police to
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give positive identification to the bodies inside of the building. when you are five years old, 10 or 11 days from christmas. you believe that santa claus will be in your house. and today, the devil came to the town and this town has to live with this for the rest of the their lives. bill, thank you for being with us. and this is the second deadliest shooting in u.s. history. this investigation is underway. a source told the ap more than two guns were found inside of the school. and we'll update you on that. we'll walk through the days ahead as we continue our coverage on the fox news channel. [ male announcer ] red lobster's hitting the streets
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we have endured too many of these trag dec in the past few years and each time i learn the news, i react not as a president buas anybody else would, as a parent. and that was especially true today. i know there is not a parent
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in america who doesn't feel the same overwhelping grief they do. the major of those who died today were children. beautiful little kids between the ages of 5-10 years old . they had their entire lives athem. birth days, graduations, weddings, kids of their own. among the fallen were also teachers, men and women who devoted their lives to helping our children fulfill their dreams and so our hearts are broken today. may god bless the memory of the victims and in the words of spritzer. heal the brokenhearted and
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bind up their wounds. that was president obama earlier emotions running high as the country copes with the senseless trag 20 children and 6 adults and breaking moments ago, a source told the ap more than two guns were found in the school. it was recently reported that two handguns were found. federal authorities are working to trace those fire arms. joining me to help explain what the police do now and where they go in the investigation . rod wheeler was teaching a course on active shooters. and former nypd detective joe coffey. he supervised the late son of sam investigation in the 1970s. obviously this kid has emotional problems and you have to be crazy and/or evil
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to kill -- these are babies. kindergarteners here. you dealt with this. this guy is a soc path like almost all of them are. people say they are mentally ill and they probably are. people like him, they are socio paths. meaning they don't center a conscience and a sense of right and wrong and no guilt associated with berkowitz. son of sam. ed him motive. my mother put meave up for adoption. it is crazy. it is it falling back on an excuse. they are socio paths. they are offering counseling to first responders because the scene was so horrific and the families, i
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don't know how as a parent and i am a parent of two kids do you ever overcome i don't know how the recovery coming in. buwhat are police doing. they have to go through the horror of identifying the bodies and going and telling the parents, where do they go from here? they have to respond to a call that involves children. it is one of the worst that a police officer can go tompt when you see the carnage that the officers saw today. it is unbelievable and they will have conflict as a matter of fact. what the police are doing right now, there is a number of things. a number of unanswered questions that we are trying to figure out. what was the motive behind the guys action. granted he was a socio path. buthere is it always a spark and warning signs in everyone of these cases. right now the investigators and atf. they are trying to figure out
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where these guys got the ammunition from and weapons from why did he select this school and classroom? we are trying to figure out all of that now. you don't have to be an investigator to peace together the fact his mother worked there and he killed his mother and went to the school. he suffered from personality disorder or perhaps tust -- autistic or medication maybe. we'll check in with medical experts later. in my business and law enforcement area. you confront evil. he was the epitome of evil as timothy macveigh and berkowitz. they are creatures that shouldn't walk the earth. and these type of people, they
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are immune to right and wrong. they have no clue. one last question. when a cop walks in and sees that, cops see a lot in the course of their career. that's right. this has got to be particularly traumatic even for them. they have to go in there and identify and people have to clean this up. it is to be difficult for everybody involved in every level. it is it the worst scenario that we can find ourselves n. all police officers are professionals and we are train tod respond and we have to respond in these situations. buwhen it involves children it is the worst thing you can ever experience. we still have to go in and remember them. when the first officer got on the scene, they had no icallyclue whether ther had killed himself. they have to attend to the injured buhad an active shooter to take out. it is a terrible situation to
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deal with, sean. i know one thing, these police officers, they will live with this for the rest of their lives. no doubt. i don't know how the parents recover. as a parent i don't know how you recover. coming up. you are looking at hoboken, new jersey the home. brother ryan lanza and plus word is breaking about the shooter's mental condition. we have the details and stay with us. for the continuing develop ams as they come in the fox news channel.
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18 children pronounced dead at the school and two pronounced dead at the hospitals and six adults pronounced dead at the
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school. the shooter is deceased in the school. police try to peace together what made 20 year old adam lanza open fire in a connecticut school today his 24 year old brother ryan is in police custody being questioned at this hour. they are outside of the apartment in hoboken, new jersey. what is the latest that you are hearing? just during the commercial break they wrapped up the police tape and it is generally a quiet scene behind me and a very different scene here and part of that confusion likely stemmed from the fact that ryan lanza id was found on adam lanza. you mentioned that he is speaking with police. that is the case. he is not considered a suspect neither he or his girl friend. they rolle here earlier this afternoon and a reliradiable source said they
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saw police surrounding the building and ryan was hand cuff taken away. he was determined not to be a suspect however. there were all the sorts of conflicting reports. they thought someone was murdered inside of the apartment building behind me or the father. the father is cooperating with the fbi and they are really talking to the family members, we are learning that adam lanza likely had some form of autism and a permanent disorder. back to you. is it true that ryan had not spoken with adam in two years,? well, sean i can tell you we heard the reports, buwe have not been able to confirm. tharching you. and in the after math of today's tragedy there were reports earlier this year the sandy hook elementary school
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implemented safety procedures and so what happened and what else can schools do to prevent incidents from happening in the future? joining me is director of safe havens international. i was peeking to friends of mine that are in the educational world and they are very clear, this school went above and beyond to get boo school, you had to be identified, and then buzzed in. and it seems like in this case. they were doing everything right, what would be the next step? sure, thanks for having me on. and want express condolences to the community and family. i am hearing a number of indications of good things that were in place in the school. busecurity is only strong as your weakest link. you buzz them and screen them, we are commonlied to test
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security and can breach security and we have to have good technology and we have excellent technology today and make sure we are using what we know about how people can be trained to detect subtle signs of danger. does that mean. no approach is fool proof. that's the point. the son of a teacher at the school would be somebody who would probably be let in and you wouldn't know and this is it a town of 27,000. well-to-do community. walk in and get frisked. is another step that every cool has armed guards. they can get in there fairly early. there are other tech techniques that can be used . we have had shootings in the schools with metal detectors. there are limits to the techniques. buthere are things in terms of
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training of staff and pattern matching and recognition and based and staff is trained to pick up on subtle differences we see it when we buzz in the schools to test them. i have been stopped because they detect something is not right to use about the store tore to get in. if the person is normally coming and going from the school it would be unrealistic to expect they would not buzz the school inform we'll not know until there is investigation . a lot of schools and organizations put in good technology budon't necessarily back tup with good training. the human brain is it the greatest defense mechanism and stur vival mechanism known to mankind according to a colleague i respect greatly. he's right. if we program the brain and teach people there are a number of incidents that have been stopped through
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techniques. bunothing is 100%. thank you, sir. coming up next. we are continuing to get details. his brother is in custody and providing crucial information about the gunman's mental condition. we'll have more on that coming up today's tragedy reminds of columbine. we'll speak to a father who lost his daughter. and offers thought tots families that lost everything today the shooting appears to have stopped and the school is in lock down.
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everyone started panicking and then policemen came in and they just liked if he was in here? but then we had to climb in the closest. we heard more gun shots and the ambulance came and then the policemen told us to run out of the build go to the fire department. one little girl's frightening account of what happened in sandy hook elementary school. and the country mourns the tragedy. it is not the first school shooting that the nation has had to deal with. rachel was killed in the columbine high school mass cure. darryl, as a parent, all i can think of today is these parents out buying christmas
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gifts. kids at this age excited about santa claus and christmas is it coming, and now planning a funeral and no christmas or birthdays, how do you recover? you have been through this. well, there is nothing you can tell a parent that lost the child. they need their friends and family. in our case, we made choices. we made the choice not to be angry and better but to celebrate rachel's life and today we have the largest school training programs and reach three million students a year with rachel's challenge and train over 300,000 children and school 500 suicides prevented. a lot of the answers are long term. they are not just a knee jerk reaction or more laws and
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regulations . but we have to be a kinder nation and take time to listen to one another and be role models in these kids. and you are active and in your healing, am i interperting it right. my son craig was in the library and he came within a split second of being killed. and i would have lost two children. my heart goes out to the parents who lost the children and dealing with the trauma of the children going through. and counseling and a they need a lot of love and attention. our hearts and prayers go out to all of these wonderful poem that lost children tonight. when duthink you started to recover. it takes a long time to heal
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this pain. how long did it take you to turn the corner a little bit. honestly, you never totally heal. there is always a hole in your heart when you lose a child. we have children and grand children. but there is always a missing gap there with rachel. it does -- you go through stages of shock ask disbelief and anger and whole gamut of emotions and the initial sting in the first two or three years begins to wear off and you never lose it completey loo. and celebrating their lives and focus on that and not direct the anger toward the shooter and even fractis and this is not a time for those parent to hear but we chose to forgive and some people can't
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do that. forgiveness and focusing on the positive in your child's life goes a long way to helping. darryl, sorry about what happened to your daughter and thanks for sharing your experience and helping more people. nand the shotter may have suffered from a personality disorder. joining me now about the shooter's mental condition. we have doctors here part of the fox medical teem. we heard personality disorder. i heard the term autism and asberger's syndrome. obvious low the kid at this age shooting his mother and going into shoot with abandon all of these kids. would any of those conditions tell you that can happen? he is out of touch with reality. if he had asberger's he may have had ongoing melt downs
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associated with violent behavior. it is possible he was on medication and it was not working and he didn't have empathy and had social problems. but that doesn't explain everything and given the age of 20, that he became pscotic and he had a delusional system that led to a heinous crime. is it always a medical condition. if someone is disconnected from rolit and no sim thee or consciousness and no soul, there is human evil, i mean somebody can kill innocent children like it seems to me that is it evil. i don't know what the doctor's opinion is on i don't let poem off of the hook and say it is it a menal condition. it is an issue of evil here as
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well. here's what i think the common denominator. lack of empathy. you can't walk up to the child and kill it and sigh the child fall to the ground or slump over and maintaining any empathy. why can you lose human empathy. you can be delusional and working on a delusional system. but you could be if you think i do this i save the whole world. and that is one level. and sure personality disorders can do this and other conditions like drug abuse combined with either a mood disorder or personality or all three. but is it a mental illness. of course it is. that lack of empathy doesn't come from no where. and in 20 years sean i never found anybody who does anything like this that been through hell in a way that
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creates mental illness. this is important i think. first resphonders are going to need counseling and the parents. as a parent they are going to need counseling. and stunes are going to be traumatized and post traumatic stress and different and all like want troops go through. what do you expect to happen to the people in the vet administration locked at 600 kids who were, thank god weren't killed will have stress disorder and they will be aggressive, sad or not feeling help and not sleeping well. it can last for months and months if not years. cognitive therapy helps. thank you. and coming up next. a former resident of that tight knit community is
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welcome back to hanuty as we continued the report on the school shooting. we go back to connecticut where a resident of that tight knit community is joining us. thank you for being with us. you're welcome, sean. tell us about the prayer vigil and information you might have picked up today. the prayer vigil was absolute low beautiful. it was just unbelievable how many people showed up at this church and people outside and just crying. and love and hugging each other. it was absolutely wonderful. yeah. i am stow glad i attended
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it. i am glad you did as well. i know the community will node a lot of healing. it is it a very small tight-knit town. 27,000 people and known as a safe neighborhood, correct? absolutely. there is no crime in newtown. this is it just an isolated incident and he was not even a resident here. he was from new jersey and he used to live there. his mother lived nearby and she was killed before he went on the school rampage. unbelievable. it is very, very sad. were there parents and some of the kids from the school at the vigil, ma'am? nyes, yes, crying. just hugging their parents and crying. and i was hugging my grand daughter and my daughter, it
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was just tharchingful that we are alive. thank you, for share thag with us. when we come back our good friend bo dedle is with us. and you will hear what one first grade teacher told her students when they were waiting for the police to arrive. that emotional story is coming up next. (siren) snote ♪
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>> i am thinking as a six or sen year old what are your thoughts? i am thinking i have to be their parent and have to tell them and i said i need you to know they love you all very
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much. and that it is going to be okay. i thought that was the last thing we were going to hear and i thought we were all going to die . i don't know if that is okay, teachers, but i wanted them to know i loved them and that would be one of the last things they heard and not the gun fire in the hallway. it is horrible, horrible. >> that was a first grade teacher in sany hook elementary thinking about her unbelievable day and likely to hear more stories as the tragedy unfolds . here is dr. michael boden. former nypd detective bo. and psyche therapist is here with us. tunes and teachers and bo has sewn a lot in his day. they will be dealing with a lot. >> it is extraordinarily traumatizing. nto the partners the most? >> right.
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getting healing is most important. what parents can do for the children. get them home so they are in a comfortable situation and provide them with structure. structure is very comforting and not overwhelm them with too much information but be a person . >> would you have them go to vigils and funerals or depends on the kid. >> it depends on the kid and the situation. if their child lost a good friend it might be good to take them to the funeral. it would be okay. and they don't get frightened and it is okay to have a broadrange of e. - emotion . >> i have six children and 1984, we had the palm sunday masscure. this man went in a house and shot and killed 10 kids. they were all sitting around
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and no one ran away. it is it a freeze thing. when someone is systematically shooting people kids freeze. it is like they were all 12 and under. six yore old and five yore old and these kids were all sitting around and all had shots. >> you saw temperature >> vivid in my mind and the first responders i am sure that was horrific. 10 day i saw and largest mass murder in new york history before 9/11. that is burned in my brain. i can just imagine what this was. how come there was no survivors. this punk. probably shot them in the head and if he shot body shots, we would have had a lot more survivors. >> doctor, you have seen many. ni did the autopsies on those. >> you have seen a lot.
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how do you kind of, i guess it is like any job, you have to find a way to compartmentalize what you are witnessing or you don't survive. >> in a sense, the deceedents are out of the pain and misery. it is it the partners and families. they are going through a state that will last a few days until they get their babies back. the sivenadults will be autopsied especially the perpetrator. but the children have to be examined and they have document the injuries on the children and if there are bullets in the bodies they have to be removed. to match it up to the weapons and make sure there was not a weapon they don't know about. it takes time. >> it comes back. and i have been involved with this safe school thing and see something notify.
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and call number there. and it is coming down. i get calls in the office. schools now aring for off duty cops with a gun. let's be honest if a guy had a gun, he might have killed some people you would at least be able to limit it. >> that's what i want. >> that's why they target school systems. >> it is going to come down to it. these are precious thingings. we'll pay for a retired cop with a gun so one of these punks come in. he will not have free will. if he had more bullets and time, he could have killed more until those cops got there. it is horrific. >> i think we are headed there especially cops in new york. >> i think it is it great. but the good news, kids are resilient d

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